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Author: HSingh
Date: 07-02-06 12:54
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can anybody tell me where this dohra is written.
"ageaa paee akaal kee..."
im sure its not in guru granth sahib ji, or dassam granth.
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Author: Jagvinder Singh
Date: 07-03-06 01:46
kuka alert!!! kuka alert!!!
lol, nah just kidding
its not written in any commonly available texts but the original writing is preserved in takht sri hazur sahib.
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Author: HSingh
Date: 07-03-06 09:55
how are you sure that guru sahibs written it?
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Author: Satnam
Date: 07-03-06 10:33
10th Guru had written this Dohra at Hazoor Sahib. He wrote this Dohra after giving Gur Gaddi to Guru Granth Sahib and original text is at Hazoor Sahib and this is being read over there since 10th Guru's time.
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Author: singh
Date: 07-03-06 10:58
the last part of dohira
raj karaiga khalsa agee rahai no koyai
kvaar hoi sabh milingai bachan saran jo hoi
appears at the end of bhai nand lal singh jee's rehitnama.
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Author: Manvir Singh Khalsa
Date: 07-04-06 05:08
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.
The Dohraa comes from REHITNAAMAS.
A Rehitnaamaa is a HUKAM, Order, of the Guru which has been SCRIBED DOWN by the BELOVED SIKHS close to the Gurus at the time. Just as a Judge announces a judgement but the the Recorder or Secretary records the judgement on paper, similarly Rehitnaame are the judgements and instructions of Guru Sahib which have been scribed and recorded by the GurSikh companions of Guru Sahib at the time.
The first part of the Dohraa is Guru Gobind Singh Jee's pavitar bachan recorded in BHAI PRAHLAAD SINGH JEE's Rehitnaama and also written later on in the late 1800s in Giani Gian Singh's "Tvareekh Guru Khalsa" and "Panth Prakaash":
AwigAw BeI Akwl kI qbY clwXo pMQ [
sB isKn ko hukm hY gurU mwnIE gRMQ [
gurU gRMQ jI mwnIE pRgt gurW kI dyh [
jo pRB ko imlbo cihh Koj sbd mih lyh [
"As was ordained by the Timeless, thus was established the Panth.
To all Sikhs, let this be the order, recognize the Granth as your Guru
The reverend Guru Granth is the visible body of the gurus
Those that seek to meet with Vaaheguru, delve into the Shabad"
The second part of the Dohraa is Guru Gobind Singh Jee's pavitar bachan recorded in BHAI NAND LAL SINGH JEE's Tankhaahnaama.
rwj krygw Kwlsw AwkI rihh n koie [
Kwr hoie sB imlYNgy bcih Srn jo hoie [
"The Sikh people shall remain free and sovereign, always, non-challenging this position. For, all shall realize, after bitter frustration, that there is no redemption except in the way of the life that the Khalsa upholds!"
There are some minor differences in some words in the various sources which have recorded Guru Gobind Singh jee's bachan used in the Dohraa which we sing, due to the language and writing style of the scriber. However, the ESSENCE and MESSAGE is all the SAME.
Bhul chuk maaf.
Daas,
Manvir Singh
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Author: anonymous
Date: 07-09-06 11:26
can someone please do the seva of typing the whole hymn out that we sing after the ardas, which starts with the dohra: "agya pay akal ki" and ends with "so hamri racchia kare guru kalgitar jagdees"
i think that is how it goes, forgive me for any mistakes sangat ji.
das would like to learn these hymns thank you much aprreciated.
can u please type it in roman thank you
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Author: niyarakhalsa - a complete idot
Date: 07-12-06 00:49
Veerji
Read the following post with a big heart & not with precocived notions . because when some of our seniors have been doing something and someone raises a finger against it we say , our seniors could nevber be wrong but we forget :
ਭੁਲਣ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਅਭੁਲੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਕਰਤਾਰੁ ॥
bhulan andar sabh ko abhul guroo kartaar.
Now,Bhai Sahib Prehlad singh ji was a sikh from Guru Gobind Singh ji's time and the dohira he wrote was :
Agya Bhai Akal Ki Tabe Chalyo Panth
Sabh Sikhan Ko Hukam Hai Guru Manyo Granth
Guru Khalsa Manyo Prakat Guran Ki Deh
Jo Prabh Ko Milbo Chahe Khoj Sabad Mein Leh
Note that It was written that Guru Granth sahib is the guru , but the deh of the guru is the Khalsa .
It was only in the later rehitnamas ( infact during the late 1700s when the khalsa did not have the control over the Gurdwaras) that we find the line as Guru Granth ji maneyo pragat guran ki deh ... One of the cause of this is understood by researchers is that many shradhaloo hindus & pandits were serving the gurudwaras and they ( conciously or uncociously ) brought in the hindu Idol worship into Simple sikhi. Because if you start concidering Gurusahibs shabad saroop as a body :"DEH" then we will start putting bhog of food , ac rooms , rajaiyan over guru sahib etc etc.....I just hope we just dont start giving Ishnann to guru sahib one day !
Respect of our guru sahib is of utmost importance but it should be in the paradigm the guru has set forth , i.e.:
1) High quality paper , good & soft rumally , padded pillows etc so that the guru sahibs swaroop can be maintained in the best quality for longger periods & readability is easy.
2) as we the Khalsa are the deh of the guru , we should keep it in its natural & best form. Ishanan , exercise & daily bhojan of naam jaap & keertan is necessary . More so , since now we represent the gurus "body".So please never distort the gurus body , never take aways the shasters from the gurus body . give it the healthest diet possible ( both physical & naam ) .
Hope this post is not viewd a s post of heritic.
I would also like to nip the qurry in the bud , Beacause many people will ask that so and so sant used to take Guru sahibs swaroop as pragat guran ki deh . So once when he had done the sukhasan seva and forgotten a pankhudi of a flower inside guru sahis swaroop. He was not able to sleep all night and keep ton having pain all over the body . so he begged for mercey next orning etc.
I have only one question to ask from all of these sadh & sants ( currently 1300 regisdered deras in punjab) : Where were they & what pain did they have when 2500 Swaroops where burnt and bombarded with tanks at Akal takht sahin in 84 ? what kind of pain did they have in their body then ? & what did they do to alleviate the pain ?
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Author: Jagvinder Singh
Date: 07-12-06 07:43
i agree with niyarakhalsa-a complete idiot.
its becoming too much of an idol worship.
im prepared to be condemned.
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