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question on Brahgyanis have different opinions???
Posted by: Ekta Singh (IP Logged)
Date: December 19, 2007 05:53PM

If Brahmgyanis are one with vaaheguroo, then how come Bhai Sahib Bhai Randir Singh had different opinions on rehit to Baba Gurbachan Singh, Baba Attar Singh, Baba Nand Singh, Sant Jarnail Singh and etc which were all brahmgyanis.

If their all one with god, then why do they have different opinions on rehit like keski or raag mala.

This has always confused me, surely if their one with god then god would tell them what the truth is??

 



Re: question on Brahgyanis have different opinions???
Posted by: No_0ne (IP Logged)
Date: December 20, 2007 12:34AM

Maybe they all did not become Brahmgyanis but were reached high spiritually.

 



Re: question on Brahgyanis have different opinions???
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: December 20, 2007 06:18AM

THere is no end of WAheguru jee, Bhai SAhib Randhir Singh Jee, Baba Budha Jee will be realizing new rangs of WAheguru even today. Only SAtguru jee/Waheguru jee is 100% correct and everybody else is less than 100%. However, a brahamgyani is very near to 100%.Somebrahamgyani can be 99.111% correct and the other can be 99.123% correct.

KOTT BRAHAMAND ko thakur suaami

 



Re: question on Brahgyanis have different opinions???
Posted by: kulbir singh (IP Logged)
Date: December 20, 2007 06:56AM

Vaheguru is beant i.e. infinite; therefore, his gyaan would be beant as well. For this reason, the levels of Brahmgyanis have to be beant. Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh has written in his book that he thinks that Baba Buddha jee has reached the highest spiritual state and this is why Guru Sahib blessed him with the title "Sikhi di Hadd".

Kulbir Singh

 



Re: question on Brahgyanis have different opinions???
Posted by: Bundha (IP Logged)
Date: December 20, 2007 06:57AM

I have no doubt that all mentioned were of the highest order spiritually. Rehat comes in many forms, not just for sikhs. There is the rehat that a Hindu keeps and that which a muslim keeps and so on. they are all paths to the one goal (but not necessarily the quickest). In the same way AkalPurkh has different purposes for differing people. Akal uses different people in different ways so the rehit doesn't necesserily have to be identical.For example the rehit of a fauji will be different in some ways to that of a Uddhassi. Having said that, even at the highest level some may unwittingly change things. For example Bhai Randhir Singh Ji did not recite Raag Mala (why they did not do this they never divulged) BUT they never encouraged others not to do so, Yet people have looked at their exemplary life and followed it to the letter and suddenly akj does not recite Raag Mala, so things happen that maybe were not meant to happen but as times passes things get changed. I am not critisizing anyone and I hope this does not end up into a slinging match all I am saying is sometimes things change unwittingly.

 



Re: question on Brahgyanis have different opinions???
Posted by: Khalsaspirit (IP Logged)
Date: December 20, 2007 07:46AM

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

Ekta Singh jio,

Your point is very valid. If some one is one with God then how come difference in opinions in Rehat and Gurbani. We think it is because how we classify some one as a Brahamgyani further more we also must say some thing wrong with our assumption of a Brahamgyani.

Bundha jio,

Quote "For example Bhai Randhir Singh Ji did not recite Raag Mala (why they did not do this they never divulged) BUT they never encouraged others not to do so,"

Where did you get this information that he never "divulged" about Raagmala? Could you verify?

Quote "Yet people have looked at their exemplary life and followed it to the letter and suddenly akj does not recite Raag Mala"

Could you elaborate more when in Akhand Kirtani Jatha this "suddenly" thing happened?

Guru Mehar karay

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

 



Re: question on Brahgyanis have different opinions???
Posted by: Khalsaspirit (IP Logged)
Date: December 20, 2007 08:18AM

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

Khalsa jio,

Quote "Akal uses different people in different ways so the rehit doesn't necesserily have to be identical.For example the rehit of a fauji will be different in some ways to that of a Uddhassi."

Bundha jio we agree with you on above quote and that is why Dasam Nanak Sahib Sri Guru Gobind Singh Jee created the Fauj which is AKAL PURAKH KI FAUJ regardless of caste, GENDER, color and race. And this Fauj has inner fit which is Gurmantar Japp and Gurbani recitation as well as outer fit which is KESKI, KANGA, KARA, KIRPAN, KASHERA. Again we have to keep in mind AKAL PURAKH KI FAUJ do not discriminate against Gender so men and women has SAME REHAT But Uddhassis can do what ever they want. So Akal Purakh ki Fauj have same Rehat since day one from 1699.

Guru Mehar Karay

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

 



Re: question on Brahgyanis have different opinions???
Posted by: Xylitol (IP Logged)
Date: December 20, 2007 01:14PM

"If Brahmgyanis are one with vaaheguroo, then how come Bhai Sahib Bhai Randir Singh had different opinions on rehit to Baba Gurbachan Singh, Baba Attar Singh, Baba Nand Singh, Sant Jarnail Singh and etc which were all brahmgyanis."

Out of the above names, Baba Gurbachan Singh, Baba Attar Singh, Baba Nand Singh, and Sant Jarnail Singh were bhramgyani. That is why their opinion on Raagmala and Keski was the same.

 



Re: question on Brahgyanis have different opinions???
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: December 22, 2007 02:36AM

"No one" jee is very right. There are infinite things on the way to Waheguru jee. A person can attain a very high avastha but still be pretty far away from becoming a brahamgyani. These days words like sant, brahamgyani have become a joke. Every jathedaar, every baba is becoming a brahamgyani.

 





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