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Canadian Embassy
Posted by : ns
Date: 7/22/2004 10:00 pm


Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ke Fateh!!

I was wondering if anyone has had the same experience as me, since going to the Canadian Embassy in the UK to get a few visa's for a few people, all amritdhari sikhs, the other day. They were asked to remove the kirpan before going upstairs into the embassy. I pleaded for half an hour with no joy and had to reomve the sri sahib and was really dismayed at this. The security guard was not rude and showed me other kirpans in his desk as it was normal practice. I couldn't beleive this, people say we the sikhs are nearly 1-2 % in comparison to Canada's total population, same as we are in India copmared to India's poulation. We have some highly educated sikhs who hold goverment posts in Canada the likes of dosaanj, Gurbaksh Mali and so forth. I 'm asking what good are all these people if they cannot influence the canadian emabssy for Sikhs to wear Kirpans at all times.Has any one suffered this at the embassy and was it taken forward to authorities with any success????

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ke Fateh!!
Re: Canadian Embassy
Posted by : Mkhalsa
Date: 7/23/2004 4:41 pm


I have had that example of other people do it, so why dont you. Ie, taking off kirpans at airports, yes everyone does, but i have been asked to take my kaRas off as well. and I gave them a look like ur crazy and said its a religious requirement and i refuse. they looked at me like im crazy and said, yeah we just had so many sikhs through here today and everyone of them has taken off their karas.

my reply to that was, i dont care, im not them, im not taking it off, its my religion i will follow it to the best of my ability, you dont tell me what to do.

sometimes directness works.
Re: Canadian Embassy
Posted by : ns
Date: 7/25/2004 3:52 am


Mkhalsa Jee, of course sometimes directness works, and iot has for me over the years too. I 'm wondering of long term implications, will we ever get issues like this resolved, at the moment they just seem to get worse and that's it.
Re: Canadian Embassy
Posted by : Billa
Date: 7/26/2004 9:26 am


MKhalsa

Is is really worth "vadaying" your Karod ?
Re: Canadian Embassy
Posted by : ....
Date: 7/26/2004 6:08 pm


>>>We have some highly educated sikhs who hold goverment posts in Canada the likes of dosaanj, Gurbaksh Mali and so forth. I 'm asking what good are all these people if they cannot influence the canadian emabssy for Sikhs to wear Kirpans at all times.

Neither Ujjal Dosanjh or Gurbaksh Malhi are amritdhari so they probably would not have as much effect on teh govt as amritdhari politicians such as Navdeep Singh Bains(?) - however he's the only amritdhari politician in Canada.