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kilbikh and kilvikh???
Posted by: inderjeet1012 (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2008 11:26AM

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ

i have doubt in the meaning of the two terms as when i checked out their implication completely opposite.
for example here kilvikh here means evil as i knew and thought

"....Updesh guru har har jap jaapay, sab kilvikh paap dokh leh....."

"....janam janam kay kilvikh utreh har sant Dhoorhee nit naapai raam..."

and in chaupai sahib we come across

[www.sridasam.org]

[www.rajkaregakhalsa.net]

"...ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਸਕਲ ਦੇਹ ਕੋ ਹਰਤਾ ॥ ਦੁਸ਼ਟ ਦੋਖਿਯਨ ਕੋ ਛੈ ਕਰਤਾ ॥"

here as i checked out in the translations it said...

"The Lord is the destroyer of all the sins of the body and all the malicious and wicked persons."

so here apparently kilbikh apparently refers to the lord.......???

does the literary meaning change so drastically with the 'b' and 'v'...

gurfateh

Re: kilbikh and kilvikh???
Posted by: kulbir singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2008 01:45PM

There is absolutely no difference between Kilvikh and Kilbikh just as there is no difference between Govind and Gobind.

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"...ਕਿਲਬਿਖ ਸਕਲ ਦੇਹ ਕੋ ਹਰਤਾ ॥ ਦੁਸ਼ਟ ਦੋਖਿਯਨ ਕੋ ਛੈ ਕਰਤਾ ॥"

here as i checked out in the translations it said...

"The Lord is the destroyer of all the sins of the body and all the malicious and wicked persons."

so here apparently kilbikh apparently refers to the lord.......???
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No, 'kilbikh' does not refer to the Lord. Kilbikh here too means 'sins'. Deh means body. 'kilbikh sakal deh ko' means 'all sins of the body' and harta means one who pulls out or takes out.

Baani is agam agaadh bodh. May Guru Sahib pardon our mistakes while doing Gurbani Vichaar.

Daas,
Kulbir Singh

Re: kilbikh and kilvikh???
Posted by: inderjeet1012 (IP Logged)
Date: February 01, 2008 02:17PM

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖਾਲਸਾ
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ

waheguru............

thanks a lot singh ji.........that was really helpful..

"Baani is agam agaadh bodh" so true........

gurfateh



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