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ਹੁਕਮਨਾਮਾ ਸਾਹਿਬ - hukamnama sahib : 18/7/08
Posted by: Atma Singh (IP Logged)
Date: July 18, 2008 07:09AM

ਸਲੋਕਮ:੫॥
ਕੋਟਿਬਿਘਨਤਿਸੁਲਾਗਤੇਜਿਸਨੋਵਿਸਰੈਨਾਉ॥
ਨਾਨਕਅਨਦਿਨੁਬਿਲਪਤੇਜਿਉਸੁੰਞੈਘਰਿਕਾਉ॥੧॥

ਮ:੫॥
ਪਿਰੀਮਿਲਾਵਾਜਾਥੀਐਸਾਈਸੁਹਾਵੀਰੁਤਿ॥
ਘੜੀਮੁਹਤੁਨਹਵੀਸਰੈਨਾਨਕਰਵੀਐਨਿਤ॥੨॥

ਪਉੜੀ॥
ਸੂਰਬੀਰਵਰੀਆਮਕਿਨੈਨਹੋੜੀਐ॥
ਫਉਜਸਤਾਣੀਹਾਠਪੰਚਾਜੋੜੀਐ॥
ਦਸਨਾਰੀਅਉਧੂਤਦੇਨਿਚਮੋੜੀਐ॥
ਜਿਣਿਜਿਣਿਲੈਨ੍‍ਰਿਲਾਇਏਹੋਏਨਾਲੋੜੀਐ॥
ਤ੍ਰੈਗੁਣਇਨਕੈਵਸਿਕਿਨੈਨਮੋੜੀਐ॥
ਭਰਮੁਕੋਟੁਮਾਇਆਖਾਈਕਹੁਕਿਤੁਬਿਧਿਤੋੜੀਐ॥
ਗੁਰੁਪੂਰਾਆਰਾਧਿਬਿਖਮਦਲੁਫੋੜੀਐ॥
ਹਉਤਿਸੁਅਗੈਦਿਨੁਰਾਤਿਰਹਾਕਰਜੋੜੀਐ॥੧੫॥

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q's / comments:

- ਬਿਲਪਤੇ - should this word be pronounced, in terms of seperating syllables, as: ਬਿਲਪ ਤੇ or ਬਿ ਲਪਤੇ or ਬਿਲ ਪਤੇ ?

- ਸਾਈ - this is pronounced without nasalisation on the kanna or biharee right, because it means 'that [season]' and doesn't refer to vaheguroo directly as 'master'. veer 'g singh' said this in response to an earlier hukamnama post but i just wanted to double check this and get another response.

- ਨਹ - should there ever be nasalisation on ਹ? if so, when and when not? i currently pretty much nasalise it all the time re: this word for some reason!

- ਹਉ - currently, i think i nasalise the oora every time i read ths word. is this correct/incorrect? when should or shouldn't we?

- ਰਹਾ - i nasalise the kanna; i do this because maharaaj jee is referring to themselves here i.e. 'i remain' - is this the correct thing to do? i also developed this habit after listening to bhai jeevan singh jee's recitation of shabad hazarae (mehla 5) - he nasalises a lot of kannae whilst doing paath re: words such as ਰਹਾ and ਕਹਾ.

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖ਼ਾਲਸਾਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫ਼ਤਹਿ

ਦਾਸ,
ਆਤਮਾ ਸਿੰਘ

Re: ਹੁਕਮਨਾਮਾ ਸਾਹਿਬ - hukamnama sahib : 18/7/08
Posted by: kulbir singh (IP Logged)
Date: July 18, 2008 12:51PM

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- ਬਿਲਪਤੇ - should this word be pronounced, in terms of seperating syllables, as: ਬਿਲਪ ਤੇ or ਬਿ ਲਪਤੇ or ਬਿਲ ਪਤੇ ?
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It is more like ਬਿਲਪ ਤੇ, in my opinion. It is a noun made from root ਬਿਲਪ which means to cry in pain.


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- ਸਾਈ - this is pronounced without nasalisation on the kanna or biharee right, because it means 'that [season]' and doesn't refer to vaheguroo directly as 'master'. veer 'g singh' said this in response to an earlier hukamnama post but i just wanted to double check this and get another response.
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In this particular pankiti this word is not with a nasal sound in the end. Here it means 'that' but if this word means maalik or master, then it is pronounced with nasal sound on bihaari.

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- ਨਹ - should there ever be nasalisation on ਹ? if so, when and when not? i currently pretty much nasalise it all the time re: this word for some reason!
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This word is pronounced like ਨੈਂਹ. Some Gursikhs prefer to pronounce it like na with slight haha and bindi sound.

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- ਹਉ - currently, i think i nasalise the oora every time i read ths word. is this correct/incorrect? when should or shouldn't we?

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It is correct to nasalize the oora, everytime. In Baani the haaha too appears with tippee on it.


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- ਰਹਾ - i nasalise the kanna; i do this because maharaaj jee is referring to themselves here i.e. 'i remain' - is this the correct thing to do? i also developed this habit after listening to bhai jeevan singh jee's recitation of shabad hazarae (mehla 5) - he nasalises a lot of kannae whilst doing paath re: words such as ਰਹਾ and ਕਹਾ.
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The above is correct.

Daas,
Kulbir Singh



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