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Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Mehtab Singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 09, 2008 04:50AM

Got this in an email

Jathedar Iqbal Singh of Patna Sahib had combined the maryada of Taksaal, AKJ and Nanaksar into one. All three organisations were really pleased as they have never accepted Panthic Maryada uptil now. Also like his father , Sukhbir is controlled by his wife and his in laws who in turn are disciples of Nanaksar Baba Ghala Singh. Hence Vedanti was quietened against Jathedar Iqbal Singh by Junior Majthia.

Now read the newsitem below whereby Maryada meeting was held at Nanaksar DERA in Delhi. Ultimately in few years time even Maryada component of AKJ and Taksaal will be thrown out as well, as Nanaksar DERA knows that they have the majority as all Sants follow Nanaksar Maryada. AKJ and Taksaal do not have the numbers.


[www.tribuneindia.com]

Sukhbir, Iqbal Singh, SGPC chief hold closed-door meeting
Varinder Walia
Tribune News Service

Amritsar, February 8
In a significant development, Sukhbir Singh Badal, Shiromani Akali Dal (SAD) president, Giani Iqbal Singh, Jathedar, Patna Sahib, Baba Harnam Singh Khalsa, chief, Damdami Taksal, and Avtar Singh, SGPC chief held a closed-door meeting at Nanaksar Dera in New Delhi today.

Talking to The Tribune, Giani Iqbal Singh said it was agreed in principle to form a seven-member high-powered committee, including jathedars of all five Takhts to bring about Panthic unity on the Nanakshahi calendar.

The meeting also resolved that a consensus would be evolved to work out a uniform Sikh maryada which should be implemented by all five Takhts and different factions of the Sant Samaj.

To give a practical shape to the proposals, as agreed upon by Sukhbir, the SGPC, the Damdami Taksal and the SAD, a meeting of the Sikh clergy is likely to be held here on February 13. Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti, Jathedar, Akal Takht, who is currently on a religious tour to France, would call the meeting after his return on February 12.

Sources pointed out that the meeting lasted for more than 2 hours. Jathedar Iqbal Singh briefed the SGPC chief and Sukhbir on issues causing Panthic controversies .

Jathedar, Patna Sahib, reportedly told the SAD chief that it was Jathedar Vedanti who had decided not to invite him to the meeting of Sikh high priests held at Akal Takht recently. However, the SAD chief assured him that he would ensure that all jathedars were invited for the meetings of Akal Takht. The two granthis of the Golden Temple would also be involved in framing a uniform maryada.

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: NiranjanSingh (IP Logged)
Date: February 09, 2008 08:06PM

How is Iqbal Singh's maryada a combination of Taksaal, AKJ and Nanaksar ?
There is no mention of AKJ involvement in the above mentioned meeting.

Patna Sahib's Iqbal Singh has been a very controversial figure in the Sikh scene for the last several years. I don't know what good he will do for the Panth with this new 'shosha' he has re-started. His past behavior has caused quite a ruckus before too. Including having two wives, keeping donations from abroad in his personal account, and declaring himself to be the 'highest' Jathedar in the Panth, and even questioning the authority of Sri Akal Takht Sahib, etc.

The recent meeting between Iqbal Singh, Dhumma, and Sukhbir Badal should be the most worrisome. First if All Sukhbir is not even a Sikh, he is a not Amrtidhari, ties his beard, and is a pawn of the BJPS/RSS. What business doe he have attending a meeting dealing with Sikh Rahit Maryada ? Dhumma, and Iqbal Singh need no further introduction.

It will be a sad day if the present Panthic Rahit Maryada is overturned by these bozos for the sake of having their own dehdhari maryada.

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 11, 2008 04:45AM

I have a feeling that this might be the beginning of something reallly bad for the panth and the nihungs(the pakka ones and not the kache/bhekhi ones) and the AKJ singhs(again the pakka ones and not the kache/bhekhi ones) shud greatly increase their naam/bani abhiyaas and rehit and shud give up the hope of life and shud get ready for shaheedi in the future because they might have to repeat what their forefathers did in the 18th century.

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: singhstah (IP Logged)
Date: February 11, 2008 09:12AM

^how come regarding this specifically? :s

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Harkirat Singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 11, 2008 09:27AM

When men and women are able to respect and accept their differences then love has a chance to blossom

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Khalsaspirit (IP Logged)
Date: February 11, 2008 11:31AM

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

Khalsa jio,

The deras involved in that meeting have suspicious image as per following information. They have close ties with RSS. See following link and if this is true then it left no doubt for Panthic thinking. According to this website of RSS their associates includes Taksal, Nanaksar and Iqbal Singh Jathedar Takhat Patna Sahib.
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[www.sangatsansar.com:80]

HISTORY

Rashtriya sikh sangat is a Socio- Cultural Organisation, which propagates the massage of SANJHIWALTA of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Rashtriya Sikh Sangat wants to spread the knowledge of Gurbani not only to the 2-3 % Sikh masses of India, but also to the rest of 97-98% Indian society. Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a holy scripture that represents the entire Indian sub-continent-THE AKHAND BHARAT.


BACKGROUND

Rashtriya sikh sangat was formed on 24th Nov. 1986 on the Guruprakash Purab of Jagatguru Nanak Sahibji Maharaj.


FORMATION

Late S. Shamsher Singh of Lucknow was first national & international Co-ordinator and convenor of Rashtriya Sikh Sangat. He toured extensively in different parts of the country as well as abroad ,.....tirelessly for 4 years.Over-work was reason behind his untimely death.He breathed last on 16th Sept.1990.During his tenure asPresident of the organisation, there were 90 branches in India, 16 chapters in U.K.,U.S.A.,&Canada.Though he was a bussinessman, but he was a highly literary person with deep intrest in ancient Indian Literature. He studied in National College Lahore. He wrote the “Teeka” of Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s work Ramavtar and Bachitter Natak.

Next President was S.Chiranjiv Singh of Patiala,a dedicated Social Worker,who started his service-mission as a whole timer (PRACHARAK). He is devoted to the cause of social amity and fraternity between the cross- section of the Indian society. He served as National President for 12 years. He is great social worker, famed for Sant Yatra inciated by he himself-“Brahamkund to Amritsar Yatra”. This Yatra was participated by eminent saints from different parts of the country belonging to different sects, that to during the black and grey phase of Punjab.

At present, S.Gurcharan Singh Gill of Bharatpur(Rajasthan ) is the President of the organisation. He succeeded after S.Chiranjiv Singh andwas elected at the 7th Convention of Rashtriya Sikh Sangat in2002-2003.He started his career as a labour leader of Bhartiya Mazdoor Sangh and was once State President of B.M.S. Presently,being a prominent lawyer , he also occupied the post of Additional Advocate General of Rajasthan. He fought for the cause of Sikhs and provided legal aid to Sikhs. The Shromani Akali Dal assigned him as convenor of Blue-Star Operation legal aid committee for Rajasthan. S. Simranjeet Singh Mann and others were in various jails of Bharatpur, Ajmer and Jodhpur. He also pleaded the cause of victims in different commissions such as Justice Mehta Commission, Justice Lodha Commission, Justice Gyani Commission.

Association with Eminent Personalities

1. Giani Puran Singh Ji-Former Jathedar of Sri Akal Takhat Sahib Ji

2. Giani Zail Singh Ji-Former President of India.

3. Giani Iqbal Singh Ji-Jathedar Takhat Patna Sahib Ji.

4. Giani Kulwant Singh Ji- Jathedar Takhat Hazoor Sahib Ji.

5. Ma. Shri K.C. Sudarshar Ji-Sarsanghchalak

6. Shri L.K. Advani Ji

7. Shri Bhairon Singh Shekhawat Ji-Former Vice President

8. Baba Thakur Singh Ji-Damdami Taksal

9. Baba Mohkam Singh Ji-Damdami Taksal

10. Trilochan Singh Ji-Ex. Chairman, National Minority Commission, M.P. (Rajya Sabha)

11. Sant Arvindanand Ji-U.S.A.

12. Late Shri Vishwanath Ji-Social Worker

13. Baba Joginder Singh Ji Moni

14. Baba Balwant Singh Ji Bhalla-Ruderpur (Uttrakhand)

15. Sant Parmanand Ji (Yug Purush) Haridwar (Uttrakhand)

16. Sant Baba Niranjan Singh Ji-Guru Ka Tal, Agra (U.P.)

17. Sant Baba Pritam Singh Ji-Guru Ka Tal, Agra (U.P.)

18. Sant Baba Sukhdev Singh Ji-Nanaksar Wale

19. Dr. K.P. Aggarwal Ji-Writer & Scholar

20. Giani Kehar Singh Ji

21. Justice R.S. Narula Ji (Punjab & Haryana High Court)

22. Sant Giandev Ji Maharaj -Nirmal Akhara, Kankhal, Haridwar

23. Dr. Harpal Singh Ji Pannu-Punjabi University Patiala

24. Dr. Jodh Singh Ji-Punjabi University Patiala

25. Dr. Samsher Singh-Punjabi University Patiala

26. Dr. Harminder Singh Bedi-Guru Nanak University Amritsar

27. Dr. D.P. Mani Ji-Punjabi University Patiala

28. Late Shri S.S. Bajwa Ji-Former President Delhi Gurudwara Management Committe, Deputy Mayor, M.C.D., New Delhi

29. Shri Amolak Rattan Kohli Ji-Ex. Governor, Mizoram State

30. Bhai Mahavir Ji-Ex. Governor, M.P.

31. Late Rajmata Vijaye Raje Sindhia Ji-Gawalior Raj Gharana

32. Late Shrimant Madhav Rao Sindhia Ji-Gawalior Raj Gharana

33. Dr. Raman Singh Ji-C.M., Chattisgarh State

34. Shri Babu Lal Gore Ji-Former C.M., M.P.

35. Shri Shivraj Singh Chauhan Ji, C.M., M.P.

36. Smt. Vasundhra Raje Sindhia Ji, C.M., Rajasthan

37. Late Sahib Singh Verma Ji-Former C.M., Delhi

38. Shri Darshan Singh Grewal Ji-Mayor, Borrow-honslo, England

39. S. Omarjit Singh Anand Ji-General Secretry Tehran Gurudwara (Iran)

40. Lt. Gen. Vijay Madan Ji-Indore

41. Brigadier Mahinder Ji-Mizoram State

42. Bhai Karnail Singh Garib-USA.

43. Sr. Joginder Singh-Ex. Director,CBI

44. Sr. Jagjit Singh Ji (Column-Kranti Geeta, Fame, Punjab Keseri), Daltan Ganj

45. Shri Arjun Munda Ji-Former C.M., Jharkhand State

46. S. Bhupinder Singh Ji-Ex. Director. MMTC

47. Dr. Mahip Singh Ji-Hindi Writer

48. Sr. Prahlad Singh Chandok Ji-Former President, Delhi Gurudwara Management Committee

49. Shri K.L. Malkani Ji

50. Late S. Gulab Singh Ji- Former M.L.A., Shivpur Kalan
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Guru Mehar Karay

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Ekta Singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 11, 2008 02:01PM

I have a feeling that this might be the beginning of something reallly bad for the panth and the nihungs(the pakka ones and not the kache/bhekhi ones) and the AKJ singhs(again the pakka ones and not the kache/bhekhi ones) shud greatly increase their naam/bani abhiyaas and rehit and shud give up the hope of life and shud get ready for shaheedi in the future because they might have to repeat what their forefathers did in the 18th century.


Bhai Harinder Singh jee can u explain more in depth please, ur theories are awesome and in line with Bhai Sahib!! What will the DDT be like? Will the AKJ change?? Will manmat marayda like meat be acceptable??

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 11, 2008 11:05PM

<<Bhai Harinder Singh jee can u explain more in depth please, ur theories are awesome and in line with Bhai Sahib!! What will the DDT be like? Will the AKJ change?? Will manmat marayda like meat be acceptable??>>

Veer, the khalsa panth is under a serious attack. WE all have full time jobs and then family responsibilites(in many cases the family is manmukh so ghar aake ve problems ne), but there are people and organizations who have full time job of attacking khalsa panth, attacking Gurmat, attacking Sri Dasam Granth. They get lots of maya for doing so. And the people who do such things are professionally trained people.
Bass Naam jappe jaoo and wait for the punj singhs that Satguru jee will send.
The enemies of the panth might be very clever, trained, professional, very skilled in deception, diplomacy,challaki but ih sabb Naam te agge fail hai.Par the problem is that ajj de sikh naam nahin japp de yan ghatt jappde nee and thats why we get defeated by chalakki of the enemy. But future will be different and the enemies of the panth will get an unforgettable lession(Baba Banda Singh Bahadur jee style)

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 12, 2008 05:20AM

<<ur theories are awesome and in line with Bhai Sahib!!>>

I hope u are not making fun of me, because that will be maha manmatt and a big paapp,hahahaha.

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Ekta Singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 12, 2008 12:36PM

I love u bhai harinder singh jee, u are inspirational, i wish i could contact u privately!! Can i??

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Harinder Singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 13, 2008 07:48AM

pyare veerji,
I am ur naukarr. U dont have to ask ur naukar for permission.Naukarr is always available for the master.

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Marad Khalsa (IP Logged)
Date: February 14, 2008 07:24AM

Will this New EKTA Maryada allow all Singhs to have Multiple Wives - aka Jathedar Iqbal Singh Patna Sahib Walleh style ?? Will this privilege also extend to Singhannes with multiple husbands. Jathedar has just absolved Bedi of any wrongdoing by having a second wife while being married because jathedar himself also does the same thing.

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Jagjit Singh (IP Logged)
Date: February 14, 2008 09:02AM

There is no new maryada and much of this is nonsense wipped up by the media. No doubt in the background mini-badal and others are doing dodgy deals as always. But the only way to change Panthik maryada is by a sarbat khalsa.There is no will in the panth for this change.

As far as AKJ it is not involved in any of this mess, neither does it condone the actions of Iqbal singh. The more iqbal singh continues with his charade, the more he will realise how isolated he is.

One God: Waheguru
One Guru : Sahib Siri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
One Group : Guru Khalsa Panth!

This should be the Motto of Our Generation

 



Re: Finally one single Maryada for the Panth set to be formed
Posted by: Marad Khalsa (IP Logged)
Date: February 19, 2008 01:44AM

Every single one of these listed on the RSS Website also 100% support the entire collection called Dasam Granth ( Chitrapakhyoan etc inclusive). Same position as by Gobind Sadan and other dodgy deras. Is there something Kala Kala in the Daal ??





Khalsaspirit Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Waheguru ji ka khalsa
> Waheguru ji ki fateh
>
> Khalsa jio,
>
> The deras involved in that meeting have suspicious
> image as per following information. They have
> close ties with RSS. See following link and if
> this is true then it left no doubt for Panthic
> thinking. According to this website of RSS their
> associates includes Taksal, Nanaksar and Iqbal
> Singh Jathedar Takhat Patna Sahib.
> --------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> [www.sangatsansar.com:80]
> 33&subsublinkid=973&langid=1
>
> HISTORY
>
> Rashtriya sikh sangat is a Socio- Cultural
> Organisation, which propagates the massage of
> SANJHIWALTA of Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
> Rashtriya Sikh Sangat wants to spread the
> knowledge of Gurbani not only to the 2-3 % Sikh
> masses of India, but also to the rest of 97-98%
> Indian society. Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is a
> holy scripture that represents the entire Indian
> sub-continent-THE AKHAND BHARAT.
>
>
> BACKGROUND
>
> Rashtriya sikh sangat was formed on 24th Nov. 1986
> on the Guruprakash Purab of Jagatguru Nanak
> Sahibji Maharaj.
>
>
> FORMATION
>
> Late S. Shamsher Singh of Lucknow was
> first national & international Co-ordinator and
> convenor of Rashtriya Sikh Sangat. He toured
> extensively in different parts of the country as
> well as abroad ,.....tirelessly for 4
> years.Over-work was reason behind his untimely
> death.He breathed last on 16th
> Sept.1990.During his tenure asPresident of the
> organisation, there were 90 branches in India, 16
> chapters in U.K.,U.S.A.,&Canada.Though he was a
> bussinessman, but he was a highly literary person
> with deep intrest in ancient Indian Literature. He
> studied in National College Lahore. He wrote the
> “Teeka” of Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji’s work
> Ramavtar and Bachitter Natak.
>
> Next President was S.Chiranjiv Singh of Patiala,a
> dedicated Social Worker,who started his
> service-mission as a whole timer (PRACHARAK). He
> is devoted to the cause of social amity and
> fraternity between the cross- section of the
> Indian society. He served as National President
> for 12 years. He is great social worker, famed
> for Sant Yatra inciated by he
> himself-“Brahamkund to Amritsar Yatra”. This
> Yatra was participated by eminent saints from
> different parts of the country belonging to
> different sects, that to during the black and grey
> phase of Punjab.
>
> At present, S.Gurcharan Singh Gill of
> Bharatpur(Rajasthan ) is the President of the
> organisation. He succeeded after S.Chiranjiv
> Singh andwas elected at the 7th Convention of
> Rashtriya Sikh Sangat in2002-2003.He started his
> career as a labour leader of Bhartiya Mazdoor
> Sangh and was once State President of B.M.S.
> Presently,being a prominent lawyer , he also
> occupied the post of Additional Advocate General
> of Rajasthan. He fought for the cause of Sikhs and
> provided legal aid to Sikhs. The Shromani Akali
> Dal assigned him as convenor of Blue-Star
> Operation legal aid committee for Rajasthan. S.
> Simranjeet Singh Mann and others were in various
> jails of Bharatpur, Ajmer and Jodhpur. He also
> pleaded the cause of victims in different
> commissions such as Justice Mehta Commission,
> Justice Lodha Commission, Justice Gyani
> Commission.
>
> Association with Eminent Personalities
>
> 1. Giani Puran Singh Ji-Former Jathedar of
> Sri Akal Takhat Sahib Ji
>
> 2. Giani Zail Singh Ji-Former President of
> India.
>
> 3. Giani Iqbal Singh Ji-Jathedar Takhat
> Patna Sahib Ji.
>
> 4. Giani Kulwant Singh Ji- Jathedar Takhat
> Hazoor Sahib Ji.
>
> 5. Ma. Shri K.C. Sudarshar
> Ji-Sarsanghchalak
>
> 6. Shri L.K. Advani Ji
>
> 7. Shri Bhairon Singh Shekhawat Ji-Former
> Vice President
>
> 8. Baba Thakur Singh Ji-Damdami Taksal
>
> 9. Baba Mohkam Singh Ji-Damdami Taksal
>
> 10. Trilochan Singh Ji-Ex. Chairman, National
> Minority Commission, M.P. (Rajya Sabha)
>
> 11. Sant Arvindanand Ji-U.S.A.
>
> 12. Late Shri Vishwanath Ji-Social Worker
>
> 13. Baba Joginder Singh Ji Moni
>
> 14. Baba Balwant Singh Ji Bhalla-Ruderpur
> (Uttrakhand)
>
> 15. Sant Parmanand Ji (Yug Purush) Haridwar
> (Uttrakhand)
>
> 16. Sant Baba Niranjan Singh Ji-Guru Ka Tal,
> Agra (U.P.)
>
> 17. Sant Baba Pritam Singh Ji-Guru Ka Tal,
> Agra (U.P.)
>
> 18. Sant Baba Sukhdev Singh Ji-Nanaksar Wale
>
> 19. Dr. K.P. Aggarwal Ji-Writer & Scholar
>
> 20. Giani Kehar Singh Ji
>
> 21. Justice R.S. Narula Ji (Punjab & Haryana
> High Court)
>
> 22. Sant Giandev Ji Maharaj -Nirmal Akhara,
> Kankhal, Haridwar
>
> 23. Dr. Harpal Singh Ji Pannu-Punjabi
> University Patiala
>
> 24. Dr. Jodh Singh Ji-Punjabi University
> Patiala
>
> 25. Dr. Samsher Singh-Punjabi University
> Patiala
>
> 26. Dr. Harminder Singh Bedi-Guru Nanak
> University Amritsar
>
> 27. Dr. D.P. Mani Ji-Punjabi University
> Patiala
>
> 28. Late Shri S.S. Bajwa Ji-Former President
> Delhi Gurudwara Management Committe, Deputy Mayor,
> M.C.D., New Delhi
>
> 29. Shri Amolak Rattan Kohli Ji-Ex. Governor,
> Mizoram State
>
> 30. Bhai Mahavir Ji-Ex. Governor, M.P.
>
> 31. Late Rajmata Vijaye Raje Sindhia
> Ji-Gawalior Raj Gharana
>
> 32. Late Shrimant Madhav Rao Sindhia
> Ji-Gawalior Raj Gharana
>
> 33. Dr. Raman Singh Ji-C.M., Chattisgarh
> State
>
> 34. Shri Babu Lal Gore Ji-Former C.M., M.P.
>
> 35. Shri Shivraj Singh Chauhan Ji, C.M., M.P.
>
> 36. Smt. Vasundhra Raje Sindhia Ji, C.M.,
> Rajasthan
>
> 37. Late Sahib Singh Verma Ji-Former C.M.,
> Delhi
>
> 38. Shri Darshan Singh Grewal Ji-Mayor,
> Borrow-honslo, England
>
> 39. S. Omarjit Singh Anand Ji-General Secretry
> Tehran Gurudwara (Iran)
>
> 40. Lt. Gen. Vijay Madan Ji-Indore
>
> 41. Brigadier Mahinder Ji-Mizoram State
>
> 42. Bhai Karnail Singh Garib-USA.
>
> 43. Sr. Joginder Singh-Ex. Director,CBI
>
> 44. Sr. Jagjit Singh Ji (Column-Kranti Geeta,
> Fame, Punjab Keseri), Daltan Ganj
>
> 45. Shri Arjun Munda Ji-Former C.M., Jharkhand
> State
>
> 46. S. Bhupinder Singh Ji-Ex. Director. MMTC
>
> 47. Dr. Mahip Singh Ji-Hindi Writer
>
> 48. Sr. Prahlad Singh Chandok Ji-Former
> President, Delhi Gurudwara Management Committee
>
> 49. Shri K.L. Malkani Ji
>
> 50. Late S. Gulab Singh Ji- Former M.L.A.,
> Shivpur Kalan
> --------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------
>
> Guru Mehar Karay
>
> Waheguru ji ka khalsa
> Waheguru ji ki fateh

 





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